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  1.  
    Bardleyrichard

    Hi, I'm curious as to what you guys think of riding at night for a commute.

    I live in Toledo, OH, and go to college there, and I have a job 15 miles or so away. I haven't ridden to work yet, because I start at 5pm, and get off around 10 or 11pm. I don't have any lights, as of now, so, I don't want to try, but have any of you had success with night commutes? 

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberaju
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2007
     
    aju
    Night commuting is great.  Stay visible (lights front and rear and reflective gear) and make sure you have enough light to see by.  Stay within your abilities and ride defensively.
    • CommentAuthorFree Membercwiggins
    • CommentTimeNov 7th 2007
     
    cwiggins
    My ride home is after dark. It's a 15.5 mile ride. With a nice headlight ($150), bright red taillight, and reflectors (including a reflective vest), I haven't had any problems that aren't encountered during daylight. Actually, there are some better aspects: less cars on the road, quieter streets, cooler temperatures, and cars tend to drive a bit slower and give a wider berth when passing. I'm considering adding a rear-view mirror just for my own comfort, but it's not necessary.
  2.  
    thefutureofamerica

    I would second the comments - you're right not to try without lights, but get yourself kitted up and make a go of it!  You'll save enough on gas (call it $3/day at 30 mpg and $3/gal * 20 work days/month = $60) in the first month to buy adequate lights, and you'll get fit and have more fun.  I really enjoy riding home at night, myself.

    I run one of these: http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=20472&subcategory_ID=4320, which are on clearance right now at performance as well as a second, dimmer flashing light up front, and a pair of red flashers in back, but that's mostly just to be seen.  I really suggest 2 lights front and back - batteries usually give you some warning as they're dying (lights dim) and most lights are pretty waterproof, but redundancy is a good thing.

    I don't work for performance or anything, but they do have a bunch of lights on sale right now, actually, and a 10% coupon running.  FWIW, I don't feel the need on my commute to have any of the $150+ lights that really let you see - There's enough streetlight along my commute to keep me happy.  And be careful with the ultra-bright systems - they burn through batteries a lot faster - they probably wouldn't last through 2 commutes if you forgot to charge one night.

    • CommentAuthorFree Membera_mcnabb1
    • CommentTimeNov 14th 2007
     
    a_mcnabb1
    In addition to the lights and reflectors (and you can't have too many of either), I'd suggest pre-riding the route in daylight to notice major obstacles and where traffic lights are better. I prefer riding a cyclocross bike to a road bike in the dark-it has more ability to roll/bounce over the things you can't see in time. And when you hit the low-light sections of your ride, relax your arms and legs and let the bike roll over whatever. My dark 15 mile commute is pretty fun.
    • CommentAuthorFree Membercbrandes
    • CommentTimeNov 15th 2007
     
    cbrandes
    I love riding at night. My commute takes me through woods on old railway trails for about 8 miles. I currently only have a 5watt vistalight. Its just barely makes it light enough to avoid obstacles. If your riding in the pitch black be sure to get something that is really bright (higher than a 5 watt). I like the idea of a redundant light as well. Currently, I only have an LED headlamp in case of a blackout. Its a blast to ride at night as long as cars aren't an issue. If they are be sure to be "brilliantly" lit. I just read about a local commuter who was hit by a car at night and did everything right! Bright lights, reflectors, defensive riding and the car still pulled out at the last second and smack! Luckily he wasn't really injured. Have fun but be careful.
    • CommentAuthorFree MemberTrekn1
    • CommentTimeNov 16th 2007
     
    Trekn1

    In addition to the suggested lighting and the reflectors on the bike, I also use the ankle reflectors (which also helps keep windbreaker pants out of the chain) and a hi vis reflective vest. My commute home is in the dark, nice riding!

     

    Have fun and be safe!

  3.  
    SubVetTonyP

    I ride a lot at night and early morning as I am in the navy and get stuck with some odd shifts.  I love it because, at least in SE Georgia, there's no traffic and the coastal winds have mostly died down.

    Stay visible!  We h have a dozen or so homeless fellows in town that ride around all night with no helmet, vest, reflectors or lights and ride down the middle of the lanes and they are not easily spotted. 

    Always keep in mind, day or night, miles ridden are still miles ridden and calories burned. 

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberdobovedo
    • CommentTimeJan 14th 2008
     
    dobovedo

    I used to live up your way many years ago when I was a teen. One thing I remember distinctly is that Toledo drivers, for whatever reason, are notorious for running through lights long after they've turned red. Just curious if you have observed the same?

    I ride year round and have lights on my bike for 7 out of 12 months. I wear high visibility vests/jackets and really like Illuminite products. Check out www.performancebike.com

    I use a flashing taillight and a combination of headlights. I have an HID light on my handlebars for seeing the road, and an extra LED light for being seen (also because it's a good backup if I run out of juice on the HID).  I also have a 2nd HID on my helmet, which is great for aiming into cars to make sure I have eye contact and to see signs and other things on the side of the road.

    One thing I have found out over the years is that visibility is actually harder to maintain at dusk/low light than in total darkness. Cycling lights aren't as bright in contrast to the setting sun. Many days I work just a bit long to actually wait for it to get darker out before I head home. It also lets the traffic die down a bit, although I ride between two small towns, Piqua/Troy, OH.

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberPBA
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2008
     
    PBA

    The problem I always have is not being able to see where I'm going when there is a vehicle coming the other way.  Their lights are always better than mine but don't seem to illuminate my side of the road. In fact they throw it into shadow.

     Anyone else have this problem? 

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberrward325
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2008
     
    rward325

    I do the commute 2 times a week. I agree with aju not to try this without lights. Even on well lit streets with bike lanes it is a bad idea to ride without a light front and rear. I am also looking at investing in a reflective vest to stand out even more. I am blessed with wide bike lanes and well lit streets and people still act like they don't see you. I love the ride to and from work and like the money savings a the end of the month.  Shop around for a light, in most cases that $20.00 dollar light from your local shop isn't going to be enough. Especially late at night, the brighter the better to see and be seen!

    • CommentAuthorChampionship Membershipteamgoslow
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2008
     
    teamgoslow

    I've done night commuting and it can be great.  Do what you need to do to be seen lights front and rear, I have tires with reflective side walls that are really effective.  Reflective clothing  such as anything with illumiNITE fabric really helps define your shape to drivers.  Beware drunk drivers.  Avoid trafic as much as possible even if it means taking a much longer route.

     

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberanjuanja
    • CommentTimeMay 7th 2008
     
    anjuanja
    I got a cheapo headlamp and attached it to my "nighttime" helmet (which also has reflective stickers a-plenty) and also use front and rear lights.  And wear reflective gear.  I love night riding.
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberanjuanja
    • CommentTimeMay 7th 2008
     
    anjuanja

    PBA Wrote:  The problem I always have is not being able to see where I'm going when there is a vehicle coming the other way.  Their lights are always better than mine but don't seem to illuminate my side of the road. In fact they throw it into shadow.

     Anyone else have this problem? 

     

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    I shake my head up and down (I use a headlamp) when a car is coming.  It seems to alert cars that there is something up ahead, and they lower their brights.  If you then look at the road directly in front of you until the car passes, it's usually just enough to track you right.

    • CommentAuthorChampionship Membershipmikep
    • CommentTimeJun 21st 2008 edited
     
    mikep
    In the ealry spring/late fall my commute to work starts in the dark.  I have dual handlebar light, tail light, and a light on my pack as well as reflective tape on it.  I wear my P. Izumi yellow shell.  I'm thinking of adding a helmet light by the fall.  It's definately diferent, first couple of times I ws nervous but i feel confident enough and feel that I'm visible (I hope) to drivers.  Also i rigged a helmet mirror to my my M Frames and it's been a huge advantage to be able to see behind me without having to look over my shoulder, I highly recommend adding a mirror if you commute alot or ride on roads with mod to heavy traffic.
    • CommentAuthorChampionship Membershipmikep
    • CommentTimeJun 21st 2008
     
    mikep
    great idea about "night helmet".  I still have my old Giro MTB helmet I tink I'll add some tape and put a helmet light on that instead of my good helmet
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberanjuanja
    • CommentTimeJun 23rd 2008
     
    anjuanja

    Beware the geek factor.  Or folks thinking you're a coal miner.  LOL. ;)

    • CommentAuthorFree Membergtronan
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2008
     
    gtronan

    i know it's not technically legal but on busyish roads at night i ride facing into oncoming traffic. i feel a lot safer than when they're coming up behind me as you never know if they've seen you or not. seems to make drivers take more care when passing you and gives you a chance to get out of the way if necessary...

     when i was a kid i had red and white lights on both the frount and back of my bike which i suppose would catch a motorists eye, therefore making him pay more attention....

     tired motorists tend to slip into somewhat of a trace, try something different to snap them out of it...

    • CommentAuthorFree MemberMalak
    • CommentTimeAug 2nd 2008
     
    Malak
    Lighting is most important, not only to be seen but to see as well. All my morning commutes are early morning while it's still dark. Once I hit something that knocked me out of the handlebars and I thought damaged my front rim. I never even saw it coming! Luckily the rim survived but I've since upgrade my lighting to a Cygolite TridenX. Oh my gosh! I can now easily see anything coming in time to take evasive action even though my avg speed is about 22mph. I use a helmet mounted light as well. More for the directional abilities than forward lighting. I can give a car approaching from a side street a quick flash to say "I'm here and coming fast". Not to shine in their eyes or annoy them, just to get their attention. I've found this works excellent. It goes without saying to use a good tail light. Some good advice in all the other posts as well. I certainly agree with dobovedo. Riding at twilight is the worst. People seem to loose their ability to judge speed/distance in this lighting. I've had more problems at twilight than any other time.
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberfrank.85
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2009 edited
     
    frank.85

    Grab some lights for your nightly commutes, and spend a little extra and get a rechargeable lighting system… I recently purchased the nightrider mini USB. It’s a power full, lightweight system. Laughing

    • CommentAuthorFree Membercww53132
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2009
     
    cww53132
    Please buy a good light for the front and back of your bike or you might find yourself a victim car bumper. Trust me they hurt and I had a light on my bicycle
  4.  
    roadfiddler

    I love cycling at night, lights are a must though. I am a big fan of retroflective tape and have stuck some red tape down the back of my seat stays. The advantage of this is that it is always on the bike so i can cycle in what ever clothing i like. It is the car lights that light up the tape so I'm not having to worry about batteries for a second rear light. And, if my rear light was to fail i can still be seen.

     I use a smart 1/2 watt led light at the rear which is nice and bright. I am not a big fan of flashing rear lights, drivers find them hard to focus on to judge distance and if the light is bright when it flashes it draws the drivers eyes to it and they if not switched on can end up driving where there eyes are pointing.

    Safe cycling is about being predictable, if you have a good bright rear light on consistent mode car drivers expect it and will act accordingly, in theory!

     

    • CommentAuthorFree Membersmokediver
    • CommentTimeFeb 10th 2009
     
    smokediver
    I snag one of these vests http://www.advancedsafetyequipment.com/sales/led.html from my bunk locker at work, makes me feel a whole lot better riding in the whee dark hours of the morning. People may be a little more respectful if were to snag one out of the cops locker as it says POLICE on the back lol. I'm not sure the cops would approve though.
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberjoedonovan
    • CommentTimeFeb 11th 2009
     
    joedonovan
    Beware of night commutes in the cold. I have commuted about 12 miles in the dark at around 10 degrees. I knew that ice and sand could be especially problematic because of my inability to clearly see them despite my bright lights; so I only commute in the cold when it is dry out. However, one dry cold morning, there was a hydrant or a pipe or something that leaked on the road, creating a large slick of ice. Even with my headlights It looked like a regular piece of road, Anyway, I ended up having a night-time "yard sale" with the work clothes and lunch all over the road and a nasty case of road rash. As soon as it warms up again, I'll be back out there.
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberpeetee
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2009 edited
     
    peetee

    I live about 8 miles from work, and go to college as well. I don't own a car, I take my bike everywhere, and usually get off around 10-11 pm. (I work at Outback Steakhouse, out of curisoity, where do you work those sound like server hours to me) The ride is not bad at all. My reccomendation is to find a back road route to your job and avoid highways, because even with bright lights on your bike cars like to pass dangerously close to you (and sometimes feel the infuriating need to lay on the horn.) As for ice and such, I couldn't say, I'm from Houston, the coldest it gets here is the 30's. Stick to low traffic routes (even if they are longer) and ride in the middle of the lane not the side, for two reasons: A) cars will see you better, and B) there is less debris there for you to blow a tire on or wipe out on. If you are forced to take highways, then this is less of an option. Still, try to avoid shoulders at night. I've patched countless tubes ruptured by an unseen piece of glass or nail. Good luck with your commute, though, I find it much more rewarding energizing then hitching a ride with a friend. Let me know how it goes.

    -Patrick

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberpeetee
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2009 edited
     
    peetee

    Oh, and I was reading the other comments, and the hot topic seems to be lights...I use a Cat Eye LED with 5 bulbs on the front for the headlight, and a second Cat Eye taillight for the back, 4 bulbs, I belive. Both work wonderfully and have a variety of flashing functions. The headlight illuminates about 10-15 feet ahead quite nicely (in total darkness.) I switch it over to flashing whenever cars come, and I always have the taillight set to flash. Total cost: $50. Cwiggins fancy lights are nice, to be sure, but in my opinion overpriced and unnecessary. I suppose it could be argued that you can't put a price on safety and ultimate visibility, but I belive that is in the eye of the beholder. However, I strongly agree with the suggestion of a reflective vest. I personally do not own one, but have been meaning to go out and buy one for some time. I have seen firsthand how the reflection off a $25 vest can be brighter than the light of a $150 headlight!  

    Happy graveyard riding!

    -Patrick

    • CommentAuthorFree Membersmokediver
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2009
     
    smokediver

    OK, as for the die hard riders that are venturing out into the country at night, what lights are you using? I'm talking the big expensive rechargable brick battery mounted on the top tube with the double beacons on front. I'm considering getting one and it's a lot of hooch to drop on something that might not be what I thought.

    I need something that can really light the way, I'm talking I'm riding pitch black darkness to work in the mornings so I want to see everything in my path. Thanks for the input.

    • CommentAuthorFree Memberdlcohen
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2009
     
    dlcohen
    Alrighty then... Well, I live in NYC. And living in NYC offers a unique set of circumstances when it comes to cycling at nite. First of all, the whole place is pretty well lit up, so, you don't really have to worry about not being able to see the terrain. Next, as long as YOU are wearing reflective gear, and attempt to obey The Rules, I think that you, the cyclist will be safe. Plus, there's this other thing - I always find it so liberating to ride or run in the dark. It just makes one feel so FREE, doesn't it?! I mean, as long as you don't get hit by a Mack Truck, that is... Be safe!!! D
    • CommentAuthorFree Memberpeetee
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2009
     
    peetee

    Smokediver, I have ridden in the darkest of Texas countrysides with naught but a small, five bulb LED. It is made by Cat Eye electronics. Trust me, it is much brighter than it looks, and will cut through the dark like a hot knife through butter. You can't even look directly into it for more than a couple of seconds. And I got the headlight and taillight for about $50. WORTH IT, for you to see in front of you with little difficulty and for cars to see you. Also, reflectors are heavily advised...

    -Patrick

  5.  
    wilmingtonvw
    PBA:

    The problem I always have is not being able to see where I'm going when there is a vehicle coming the other way. 

    Anyone else have this problem? 

     I've had that problem, but after upgrading to a better light,I've had more luck.

     My night commute is a little longer because I take a less travelled route, but that's about it.

     

     

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  7.  
    flamin trek

    When you're riding at night I reckon the amount of light you need varies a lot.

    Cruising city streets - need enough to be seen, most streets have enough lighting to see where you're going once your eyes adjust. cheapo LED flashing light

    Low-Flying city streets - need to see where you're going, a bit more light. Decent LED/Halogen light

    Cycleways - don't need much unless the moon isn't around, cheapo LED light.

    Busy Road - lots of light to be seen. Good flashing LED.

    Off Road/Trail/out in the country  - as much as you can afford.

    I made a system using 2 different downlight globes for high and low beam + 12V lead acid battery years ago. I've just purchased an LED downlight globe now that they put out enough light equiv to 20W that the old low beam put out. My 50W globe used to last about 40min and it's bright enough to have drivers flash their lights at me. 20W was good for off road riding. New globe at 3W should last about 7hrs on the battery about as big as a water bottle. Advantage: good light, cheap, easy to wire up (wire from battery-switch-globe-battery). Disadvantage: heavy battery and a bit big.

    Technology has improved in the last few years and you can get fantastic lights if you've got the cash.

  8.  
    trainmaster

    I live in north Georgia, and have been doing night rides for years, both as commutes and for training/pleasure.  I work swing shifts, so I could be on the road at any time of day.  What amazes me more than anything is the number of other riders who take advantage of the low traffic and cooler temperatures that night riding has to offer.

    The equipment I use is basic - a bell cycling light and rear blinker, and a leftover reflective vest from my days as a lift-truck driver.  I usually avoid main roads at night and stick to the secondarys.  The area is also a bit on the redneck side, so even thought most drivers are courteous, there is still the concern that your blinking light may attract a drunk or two.  

    Common sense and a bit more concentration than in the day make for some great riding at night, especially when the moon if full!

    • CommentAuthorChampionship Membershipmikep
    • CommentTimeSep 19th 2009
     
    mikep
    My commute is now in total darkness again (I work 7a-7p).  I took my old helmet and put reflective tape on the back and sides.  My seatbaghas a solid LED and my pack has 2 blinking LEDs on it.  I use a 50watt head light with a "bottle battery" pack.  Some coworkers see me riding in the morning and say I look like a Christmas tree which to me is a good thing

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